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Until now the veterancy system worked in such a way that the tech level of the units killed determined how many veterancy points a unit was given, and only the unit that got the killing blow would get the veterancy point(s).
With this patch we are moving from that tech-based system to a mass based system. That means your units will get veterancy based on the mass of the unit that is killed. Your unit also doesn't need to get the killing blow to get veterancy. Once a unit dies all the units which damaged it will get veterancy points based on how much damage they did to that unit. There are also multipliers to adjust how much veterancy certain classes of units will require to vet up. We will watch closely for cases where veterancy may move to fast or too slow in certain fights and make any adjustments necessary in upcoming patches.
he mass value of the ACU has been reduced to 2000 to avoid getting insane veterancy by killing an ACU
The amount of veterancy points that the ACU gains from higher tech units is reduced to avoid vetting too fast by overcharging mass heavy land units.
Experimental units only need to kill 50% of their own worth in mass to gain one veterancy rank.
Regular units need to destroy 200% of their own worth in mass to gain one veterancy rank.
Destroying a transport gives veterancy points for the cargo as well as the transport itself.
Unified regeneration values.
T1 +1 -> 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 regeneration
T2 +3 -> 3, 6, 9, 12, 15 regeneration
T3/ACUs +6 -> 6, 12, 18, 24, 30 regeneration
SACUs +9 -> 9, 18, 27, 36, 45 regeneration
T4 +25 -> 25, 50, 75, 100, 125 regeneration
Shields
Gunships
Health: 864 → 1080
Power Build Cost: 4800 → 6000
Mass Build Cost: 240 → 300
Build Time: 1600 → 2000
Damage: 12 → 16
Novax Satellite
Speed: 6 → 9
Radar Range: 70 → 150
Omni Range: 0 → 50
Energy Cost: 80000 → 160000
Mass Cost: 5000 → 10000
Build Time: 15000 → 30000
Flapjack
Seraphim T1 submarines
Massfabs
mass cost: 100 → 200
power drain: 150 → 100
mass cost: 3000 → 4000
power cost: 65000 → 120000
build time: 4988 → 5000
power drain: 3500 → 1500
mass gain: 12 → 16
adjacency bonus on 1x1, 2x2, 3x3 structures buffed to 20%
adjacency bonus on 5x5 structures buffed to 3.75%
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Janus
- Corrected miscalculation in total damage. Fire pulse count decreased 15 → 10
Reclaim
- Time taken to reclaim unit wrecks doubled. Props and living units unaffected
- Increased value of split trees by 25% to compensate for it taking longer to reclaim them
T1 Land/Air Factory + T2 Land/Air Support
Aeon Health increased 3100 → 3200
Cybran
- Health increased 2500 → 2750
- Regen increased 6 → 9
T1 Naval Factory
Aeon Health increased 3100 → 3700
UEF Health increased 4000 → 4500
Seraphim Health increased 3500 → 4000
Cybran
- Health increased 2500 → 3200
Regen increased 6 → 10
T2 Land/Air HQ + T3 Land/Air Support
Aeon Health increased 6200 → 6400
Cybran Health increased 5000 → 5500
T2 Naval Support
Aeon Health increased 5000 → 6400
UEF Health increased 6500 → 8000
Seraphim Health increased 5500 → 7000
Cybran
Health increased 4000 → 5500
Regen increased 12 → 20
T2 Naval HQ
Aeon Health increased 10000 → 12800
UEF Health increased 13000 → 16000
Seraphim Health increased 11000 → 14000
Cybran
Health increased 8000 → 11000
Regen increased 30 → 40
T3 Land/Air HQ
Aeon Health increased 12400 → 12800
Cybran Health increased 10000 → 11000
T3 Naval Support
Aeon Health decreased 13000 → 12800
UEF Health decreased 17000 → 16000
Cybran Regen increased 30 → 40
Seraphim Health decreased 15000 → 14000
T3 Naval HQ
Aeon Health increased 20000 → 21000
Cybran Health increased 16000 → 17000
Seraphim Health increased 22000 → 23000
Hydrocarbon
Cybran Regen decreased 6 → 5
Mass Storage
Cybran Regen decreased 4 → 3
Seraphim ACU Second Gun Upgrade
Mass cost increased 3500 → 4800
Energy cost decreased 300000 → 270000
Damage bonus increased 400 → 750
Damage radius increased 2 → 2.
Veterancy
Increased veterancy regen values for Experimentals across the board
Fixed longstanding bug causing Veterancy to heal far too much health
Introduced new veterancy mechanics to allow fine control over instant heal effect
Old system: 1st Vet = Heal for max HP * 0.1. 2nd Vet = Heal for max HP * 0.2 ... etc
New system: Unchanged for ACUs. Other units heal max HP * 0.1 each time
MMLs
Aeon
Missile HP increased 1 → 2
Missile motion parameters changed to be slower
UEF
Now fires 3 missiles in a salvo, 1.8 seconds apart, every 10 seconds
Effective DPS increased 60 → 90
Seraphim
Missile motion parameters changed to be faster
MuzzleVelocity increased 3 → 4
RateOfFire increased 0.15 → 0.1666. Firing cycle from 1 shot every 6.7s to one shot every 6 seconds
Effective DPS increased 60.4 → 67.5
Sparky
Reintroduced Energy drain of 15 for running Jammer
Novax Satellite
Crash damage decreased 3000 → 1000
UEF T1 Bomber
Bomb DoT Duration increased 1.5 → 4.2. Damage remains the same, just more spread out in time T2 Static Flak
Aeon MuzzleVelocity increased 30 → 35
UEF MuzzleVelocity increased 25 → 35
Cybran MuzzleVelocity increased 20 → 30
Seraphim
MuzzleVelocity increased 25 → 35
AOE increased 3 → 4
FiringRandomness decreased 2.5 → 2
Crab Eggs
Corrected T3 Engineer Egg to match new values for the main unit from previous patches
BuildTime of all eggs reduced by 50%
Megalith
BuildRate decreased 180 → 45
Combined with egg changes, effectively doubles egg build time, and reduces Megalith reclaim rate to 25% of before
Aurora
FiringRandomnessWhileMoving increased 0.1 → 0.3
Harbinger
BuildRate increased 3 → 5
Aeon ACU
First Shield upgrade recharge time increased 65 → 90
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The focus of this patch is working on improving the implementation of the previous patch. Cybran regen is improved, Seraphim get a buff to their hps, as well as some smaller changes and fixes.
We wish you good luck and much fun playing with the new patch!
-- The Balance Team
Janus:
Janus gets a slight buff again to improve it slightly vs units.
- Initial Damage: 15 → 20
- Total Impact Damage: 300 → 400
- Total Overall Damage: 1500 → 1600
T3 Naval Support Factories:
T3 naval support facs were found to be too vulnerable considering the cost of the units being constructed within them so we have reduced their hp nerf.
- UEF HP: 13000 → 17000
- Seraphim HP: 10000 → 15000
- Aeon HP: 10000 → 13000
- Cybran HP: 8000 → 11000
- Cybran HP Regeneration: 15 → 30
T2 UEF Naval Support Factory:
This is a correction of the UEF T2 naval support factory which was missed in testing before the previous balance patch.
- HP: 6000 → 6500
Mass Storages:
Mass storage hp has been given some hp back, so that it is more in line with their cost.
- UEF HP: 760 → 1200
- Seraphim HP: 600 → 1100
- Aeon HP: 600 → 1000
- Cybran HP: 500 → 800
- Cybran HP Regeneration: 1 → 4
In the HP nerf patch Seraphim were given the same HP as Aeon. However we now decided to buff their HP so that they have more than Aeon, but still less than UEF. Seraphim have less unit choices and are not one of the stongest factions so some buffs are warranted and this also increases faction diversity.
Seraphim T1 Buildings:
- Air/Land/Naval Factory HP: 3100 → 3500
- Power Generator HP: 600 → 650
- Hydrocarbon Power Plant HP: 1600 → 1700
- Mass Extractor HP: 600 → 650
- Wall Segment HP: 2000 → 2500
Seraphim T2 Buildings:
- Air/Land Factory HQ HP: 6200 → 7000
- Naval Factory HQ HP: 10000 → 11000
- Air/Land Support Factory HP: 3100 → 3500
- Naval Support Factory HP: 5000 → 5500
- Power Generator/Mass Extractor HP: 1900 → 2000
Seraphim T3 Buildings:
- Air/Land Factory HQ HP: 12400 → 14000
- Naval Factory HQ HP: 20000 → 22000
- Air/Land Support Factory HP: 6200 → 7000
- Naval Support Factory HP: 10000 → 15000
- Power Generator/Mass Extractor HP: 6200 → 7000
The initial Cybran regen values were found to be too low to be a relevant feature, so we have increased Cybran regen across the board.
Cybran T1 Buildings:
- Air/Land/Naval Factory: 3 → 6
- Power Generator/Mass Extractor: 1 → 2
- Hydrocarbon Power Plant: 1 → 6
- Wall Segment: 3 → 6
Cybran T2 Buildings:
- Air/Land Factory HQ Regen: 10 → 20
- Naval Factory HQ Regen: 15 → 30
- Air/Land Support Factory Regen: 3 → 6
- Naval Factory Regen: 6 → 12
- Power Generator/Mass Extractor Regen: 3 → 6
Cybran T3 Buildings:
- Land Factory HQ Regen: 20 → 40
- Air Factory HQ Regen: 20 → 40
- Naval Factory HQ Regen: 30 → 60
- Air/Land Support Factory Regen: 10 → 20
- Naval Factory Regen: 15 → 30
- Power Generator/Mass Extractor Regen: 10 → 20
Wall segments:
Destroying Wall Segments now grants 0.1 veterancy instead of 1. Killing walls for vet was an abuse which became more prevalent since the wall hp nerf.
T2 Radar:
We have reduced the maintenance cost of T2 radars to encourage this intel option in the midgame.
- T2 Radar energy Mainentance cost: 250 → 200
This patch contains the HP changes that have been in testing and discussion for a long time, and some Ythotha buffs on top. As always, you can post your feedback and opinion on the forums.
We wish you good luck and much fun playing with the new patch!
-- The balance team
Ythotha:
A buff to the Ythotha has been long planned and wished, but buffing it in a way that makes the unit more dynamic and interesting turned out to be difficult. We have decided to improve it by making it more nimble and also allowing it to shoot 45 degrees backwards so that it can be microed to a much greater degree. It also gets a slight range increase to help with this goal. We will closely observe if this new microability in certain situations gives the Ythotha the power it should have, or if further adjustments are needed.
- TurnRate: 40 → 60
- EyeWeapon Range: 45 → 47
- LeftArm Range: 45 → 47
- RightArm Range: 45 → 47
- AA Range: 45 → 47
- AA AOE: 1.5 → 4
- RightArm, LeftArm and EyeWeapon can now shoot 45 degrees behind them.
- AA can shoot at a slightly greater angle to eliminate blindspots.
- Added UseFiringSolutionInsteadOfAimBone = true for better AA performance. Credit to EQ for this AA change.
Stun:
Janus:
The Janus change in the last patch worked well but was found to be too strong. The napalm's burn time is increased to allow players to react and move out of the damage radius before all damage has been dealt. The initial damage of the bombs is also decreased.
- DoTTime: 4.2 → 6
- InitialDamage per bomb: 30 → 15
HP Reductions (Part 1)
The goal with all the HP reductions in general is to allow more options for aggressive play, especially in the lategame and to bring the game closer to how it is working with the current low t2 pg HP and its impact on the game.
The goal with increasing the HP differences between the factions is to make them a relevant and interesting part of the game, rather than a visual difference without much impact. The changes are aimed to increase faction diversity and attempt to even out the current differences in power between the factions by giving them more unique strengths and weaknesses, rather than making them more equal. This are rather big changes, but we believe they will make the game more diverse and interesting.
To compensate cybran a bit for the rather large nerfs, and to accompany their new weakness with a strength that fits to them, all their nerfed buildings do (very slowly) regenerate health now in return. They are more vulnuable, but if you don't kill them they will be back at full HP after about 10 minutes for each building.
UEF T1 Land Factory.pngT1 Land/Air/Navy and T2 Land/Air Support Factories
- UEF HP: 4100 / 4100 / 4800 and 4500 / 4500 → 4000
- Aeon HP: 3700 / 3700 / 4400 and 4100 / 4100 → 3100
- Seraphim HP: 3700 / 3700 / 4600 and 4300 / 4300 → 3100
- Cybran HP: 3500 / 3500 / 4200 and 3900 / 3900 → 2500
- Cybran HP regeneration: 3 hp/s
UEF T2 Land Factory HQ.pngT2 Land/Air HQ and T3 Land/Air Support Factories
- UEF HP: 9000 and 4500 / 4500 → 8000
- Aeon HP: 8200 and 10000 → 6200
- Seraphim HP: 8200 and 10500 → 6200
- Cybran HP: 7800 and 9500 → 5000
- Cybran HP regeneration: 10 hp/s
UEF T3 Land Factory HQ.pngT3 Land/Air HQs
- UEF HP: 22000 → 16000
- Aeon HP: 20000 → 12400
- Seraphim HP: 21000 → 12400
- Cybran HP: 19000 → 10000
- Cybran HP regeneration: 20 hp/s
UEF T2 Naval Factory.png T2 Navy Support Factories
- UEF HP: 9000 → 6000
- Aeon HP: 8000 → 5000
- Seraphim HP: 8500 → 5000
- Cybran HP: 7500 → 4000
- Cybran HP regeneration: 6 hp/s
UEF T2 Naval Factory HQ.png T2 Navy HQs / t3 Navy Support Factories
- UEF HP: 18000 / 20000 → 13000
- Aeon HP: 16000 / 18750 → 10000
- Seraphim HP: 17000 / 19000 → 10000
- Cybran HP: 15000 / 17000 → 8000
- Cybran HP regeneration: 15 hp/s
HP Reductions (Part 2)
T1 Mass Extractors and T1 Power Generators:
- UEF HP: 600 → 760
- Aeon HP: 600
- Seraphim HP: 600
- Cybran HP: 600 → 500
- Cybran HP regeneration: 1 hp/s
T1 Mass Storage:
- UEF HP: 1600 → 760
- Aeon HP: 1600 → 600
- Seraphim HP: 1600 → 600
- Cybran HP: 1600 → 500
- Cybran HP regeneration: 1 hp/s
T2 Mass Extractors and T2 Power Generators:
- UEF HP: 3000 / 2160 → 2500
- Aeon HP: 3000 / 2160 → 1900
- Seraphim HP: 3000 / 2160 → 1900
- Cybran HP: 3000 / 2160 → 1800
- Cybran HP regeneration: 3 hp/s
T3 Mass Extractors and T3 Power Generators:
- UEF HP: 8400 / 9720 → 9000
- Aeon HP: 8400 / 9720 → 6200
- Seraphim HP: 8400 / 9720 → 6200
- Cybran HP: 8400 / 9720 → 6000
- Cybran HP regeneration: 10 hp/s
- Explosion Damage (only t3 Power Generator): 8000 → 5500
Hydrocarbonplants:
- UEF HP: 1600 → 1800
- Aeon HP: 1600
- Seraphim HP: 1600
- Cybran HP: 1600 → 1400
- Cybran HP regeneration: 1 hp/s
Walls:
- BuildTime: 10 → 20
- UEF HP: 4000 → 3000
- Aeon HP: 4000 → 2000
- Seraphim HP: 4000 → 2000
- Cybran HP: 4000 → 1500
- Cybran HP regeneration: 3 hp/s